Entrevista com Margareth da Silva Pereira e Romão Veriano da Silva Pereira

Margareth da Silva Pereira; Romão Veriano da Silva Pereira; Mário Luis Carneiro Pinto de Magalhães; Elane Ribeiro Peixoto; Leandro de Sousa Cruz; Ana Flávia Rêgo Mota

doi:10.18830/1679-09442023v16e56597

Authors

Margareth da Silva Pereira Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro; Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo; Programa de Pós-Graduação em Urbanismo https://orcid.org/0000-0002-9840-1333
Romão Veriano da Silva Pereira RVeriano Arquitetos Associados. Mestre em História Urbana pela École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales
Mário Luis Carneiro Pinto de Magalhães Universidade Santa Úrsula; Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo https://orcid.org/0000-0003-1202-5769
Elane Ribeiro Peixoto Universidade de Brasília; Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo; Programa de Pós-Graduação em Arquitetura e Urbanismo https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9998-3438
Leandro de Sousa Cruz Universidade de Brasília; Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1305-9306
Ana Flávia Rêgo Mota Universidade de Brasília; Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo; Programa de Pós-Graduação em Arquitetura e Urbanismo https://orcid.org/0000-0001-9848-1647

DOI:

https://doi.org/10.18830/1679-09442023v16e56597

Keywords:

History of Urbanism, Université Paris VIII, Université de Vincennes, Françoise Choay

Abstract

This interview was conducted with Margareth da Silva Pereira (MP) and Romão Veriano da Silva Pereira (VP) on 12 October 2023, in Rio de Janeiro, by Mario Luís Carneiro Pinto de Magalhães (MM) and Elane Ribeiro Peixoto (EP). It had the invaluable participation of Leandro de Sousa Cruz and Ana Flávia Rêgo Mota, who did the hard work of transcribing it and clearing up doubts with efficient research.

It's not easy to introduce Professor Margareth da Silva Pereira – we admit it's a task of enormous responsibility. Professor Margareth's professional career includes a degree in Architecture in Rio de Janeiro and a degree in Urban Planning in France at the University of Paris VIII (Vincennes). Her studies and research in the history of architecture and urbanism are extensive and have been published in books, articles, conferences and curated exhibitions. Her academic work has given her national and international recognition, with her presence at the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro, the Federal University of Bahia, PUC Campinas, in France, England and Colombia. Among Margareth Pereira’s many works are those in the series “Nebulae of the Urban Thought,” a work whose organization she shares with Paola Berenstein Jacques (volumes I, II, and III) and Josianne Cerasoli (volume III). As stated in the introduction to the first book in the series, this is a theoretical-methodological contribution on the different ways of thinking and narrating the history of urbanism. From work developed over many years, Margareth and Paola organized the website Cronologia do Pensamento Urbanístico, an initiative that has become indispensable for students and researchers. Coordinator of the Laboratory of Urban Studies (LeU) - Urban Culture and Urban Thought in Brazil and Professor of the Postgraduate Programme in Urbanism (PROUR) at the FAU-UFRJ, our interviewee brings together young researchers who share interests, readings, research and moments of relaxation, animated by her own joy and enthusiasm. Our initial intention was to interview Margareth Pereira to hear her talk about the time when she was studying urbanism at the University of Paris VIII. We wanted to understand the climate of the time and the role played by Françoise Choay in this unusual institution, which was open to immigrants and workers and through which important names in the French cultural scene, from Foucault to Deleuze, passed. During our conversation, Romão, Margareth's partner, joined us. He had also been a student at Paris VIII. An architect at the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro, Romão complemented her memories of the period with his own. Little by little, he asked questions and provided information, becoming one of our interviewees and making our conversation richer than we had imagined.

We would like to thank Margareth and Romão for the opportunity and time they gave us.

We hope that readers of this double interview will enjoy it.

Author Biographies

Margareth da Silva Pereira, Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro; Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo; Programa de Pós-Graduação em Urbanismo

Holds a degree in Architecture and Urbanism from FAU-UFRJ (1978), a degree in Urbanism from Université de Paris VIII (1979), a DEA in Urban Studies (1984), and a PhD (1988) from the École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales. She completed her postdoctoral studies in France (at the Institut d'Urbanisme de Paris and the École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales) and in England (at the Centre for Urban History at the University of Leicester) in 2004, and a senior research fellowship in 2012 at ENGREF in France. She was a visiting professor at the UFRGS Institute of Arts (1990), the Institut Français d'Urbanisme (2002), the Centre de Géographie Urbaine at the École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales (2003), the Institut d'Urbanisme de Paris (2003), the Universidad Nacional de Colombia (2003), the Centre Maurice Halbwachs at the École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales (2018), and the Postgraduate Program in Architecture and Urbanism at the Federal University of Bahia (2020). She has also delivered lectures at various higher education institutions in Brazil and abroad. She was a professor and coordinator of the Specialization Course in Art and Architecture History in Brazil at PUCRIO (1987–1992), a professor at FAU-PUCCAMP (1993–1997), Vice-Dean of the Center for Letters and Arts at UFRJ, and has been a full professor at the Faculty of Architecture and Urbanism at UFRJ since 2016. She has been part of the Postgraduate Program in Urbanism (PROURB) since 1999, where she served as coordinator from 2013 to 2016. She is the author of books, book chapters, articles, and exhibitions in the fields of cultural studies, focusing mainly on art, architecture, urbanism, and landscaping, particularly in Rio de Janeiro. She is also dedicated to analyzing historiographical discourses on Brazil's cultural field in these areas.
Romão Veriano da Silva Pereira, RVeriano Arquitetos Associados. Mestre em História Urbana pela École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales

Romão Veriano da Silva Pereira is an architect graduated from FAU UFRJ in 1978, and also an urban planner from the Institut d'Urbanisme de Paris. He holds a postgraduate degree in Urban Planning from the Université Paris I and a master’s degree in Urban History from the École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales. Since 1989, he has been the managing partner of RVeriano Arquitetos Associados, where he works on architectural design and construction management projects. He is the events manager at the São Paulo Biennial Foundation. Co-author of the book Le Corbusier e o Brasil (1987).
Mário Luis Carneiro Pinto de Magalhães, Universidade Santa Úrsula; Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo

Currently a professor in the Architecture and Urbanism program at the Universidade Santa Úrsula (2016–present), he is also a researcher at LeU - Laboratório de Estudos Urbanos, where he has been active since 2006. He holds a degree (2002) in Architecture and Urbanism from FAU/UFRJ, a master’s degree (2005), and a PhD (2018) in Urbanism from PROURB/FAU/UFRJ. He served as a substitute professor in the Department of Urban and Regional Planning (DPUR) (2007/1–2008/2), the Department of Form Analysis and Representation (2007/2–2008/2), and the Department of History and Theory (DHT) (2014–15) at FAU/UFRJ. He also taught at the Faculty of Architecture and Urbanism at Universidade Gama Filho (2013/1–2). He teaches, advises, and conducts research in the field of Arts, with an emphasis on Architecture and Urbanism, focusing mainly on the following areas: History of Architectural and Urban Thought, History of Sciences, Architecture and Education, Analysis and Representation of Form, and Architectural and Urban Design. His work consistently seeks to integrate knowledge and explore interdisciplinary connections.
Elane Ribeiro Peixoto, Universidade de Brasília; Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo; Programa de Pós-Graduação em Arquitetura e Urbanismo

Graduated in Architecture and Urbanism, she is a professor at the Faculty of Architecture and Urbanism of the University of Brasília. She holds a master’s degree (1996) and a PhD (2003) in Architecture and Urbanism from the University of São Paulo, with a postdoctoral fellowship at the Prourb program of the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro (2023). She was a research fellow at the Laboratoire d’Anthropologie et des Institutions Humaines in Paris (2001) and a visiting professor at IUAV (2015). Her research and supervision of master’s and doctoral theses focus on the area of Theory, History, and Criticism, with work in three research lines: History and Theory of Architecture, History and Theory of the City and Urbanism, and Heritage and Preservation. She translated into Portuguese The Modern Cult of Monuments: Its Character and Its Origin by Aloïs Riegl, and Walking the City by Henri Pierre Jeudy. She serves as vice-leader of the research group Cidades Possíveis. Her research themes primarily include the contemporary city, its dynamics, and its cultural heritage. She conducts research and outreach projects in public elementary schools in Brasília, aiming to contribute to the discussion of the city in its spatial, historical, and heritage dimensions. She coordinated the research line History and Theory of Architecture in the Graduate Program at FAU-UnB. She has collaborated in organizing and curating editions of the event Café com Europa, sponsored by EUNIC (European Union Embassy), and is one of the editors of the publications resulting from these events. She contributed to the conception of the script for the film Um Portão Aberto para Ceilândia, based on research funded by the Fundação de Amparo à Pesquisa do Distrito Federal.
Leandro de Sousa Cruz, Universidade de Brasília; Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo

Professor at the Department of Design, Expression and Representation at the Faculty of Architecture and Urbanism at the University of Brasília. PhD in Architecture and Urbanism (2020) from the University of Brasília, completed his undergraduate degree (2008) and master's degree (2013) in the same area from the Federal University of Bahia. He carried out post-doctoral work at the Université Catholique de Louvain in 2023, with a scholarship from CNPq.
Ana Flávia Rêgo Mota, Universidade de Brasília; Faculdade de Arquitetura e Urbanismo; Programa de Pós-Graduação em Arquitetura e Urbanismo

Architect and Urban Planner graduated from the State University of Goiás (2013), specialist in Cultural History from the History Faculty of the Federal University of Goiás (2015), Master in Architecture and Urbanism from the Postgraduate Program at FAU-UnB (2017), and currently a PhD candidate at the same Program. She served twice as a Substitute Professor at FAU-UnB (2017-2018 | 2021-2022) and taught Architecture and Urbanism and Interior Design courses at UNIP - Brasília Campus (2017-2022). She has experience in research and teaching activities focused on the areas of Theory and History of Architecture and Urbanism. She is also a member of the research groups "Possible Cities" and "Topos - Landscape, Project, and Planning" (Labeurbe) at FAU-UnB.